END-TIME WORK, PART 2 (CHURCH OPERATIONS)

Read the End-Time Work Part 1 Article Here.

Today is August 12, 2001 as I start to write this paper.  Three years has elapsed since I wrote part one.  A lot more information has come clear since then.  This information is on how this end time work of God is brought down to each end time Christian on a personal level.  Understanding these instructions of God for the end time church turns the Bible into a personal handbook for us and our individual church groups by using this handbook we can be powerful instruments in God’s hands.

We have to guide our lives FOLLOWING AFTER God, not RUNNING IN FRONT.  Any real Christian must have the mind of Christ.

Phi 2:5  Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Let’s look at some of this mind of Christ.  Study Philippians. 2:12 first.

Phi 2:12  Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

This is not a suggestion.  If we are to obtain salvation we have to consider this a command.  The command is to each of us to go one on one with Christ.  The results of this one verse in your life when you clearly understand it will make you tremble in awe of this mighty God and Christ who are doing these things.

I put a subtitle of “church Operations under the title of this paper.  That is what we are basically looking at in this paper.  Our individual responsibility before God in the end time as well as all the new understanding of how we fit into the end time work and church operations comes from one verse which was mentioned several times in part one.  At that time, I did not know the full implication of the word “examples” in 1 Corinthians 10:11.

1 Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

“Examples” is Strong’s #5179: “a die (as struck), i.e. (by impl.) a stamp or scar; by anal. a shape, i.e. statue, (fig.) style or resemblance; spec. a sampler (“type“), i.e. a model (for imitation) or instance (for warning).”

Zodhiates’ Complete Word Study New Testament says: “type, as a constituent element of a parable or model of some reality which was yet to appear, a prototype of that which was yet to be developed and evolved.”

“Admonition” is Strong’s #3559: “calling attention to, i.e. (by impl.) mild rebuke or warning.”

“World” is Strong’s #165: “prop. an age; by extens. perpetuity (also past); by impl. the world; spec. (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future):—age, course, eternal, (for) ever (-more), [n-]ever, (beginning of the , while the) world (began, without end).”

Once we understand this verse, we can see the blueprint God has laid out for us in the Bible.  Actions of the New Testament church are clear written instructions as to what we will be doing in the end time.  The only difference is that our end time actions will be magnified many times over.  What I mean by that is that the end time church will access the whole world with billions more people in it.  The known world was much smaller when the New Testament Church did its work.

Mat 28:19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Mark 16:15  And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

In studying the definition of examples in 1Corinthians 10:11, you can see what I am talking about.    The New Testament church as some call it did not have access to the whole earth as we do today.  The new world as it is called was not accessible to them or at least for the most part.  Can you start to see that what they did was only a prototype for us to imitate in the end time once we can understand that we will imitate what the early church did, except on a far greater scale.  Will there be twelve apostles in the end time church with a thirteenth coming later as Paul did?

Well, what about it?  What is going on in your mind? Can you pick and choose what you want to believe?  I call that playing church.  For instance, can you believe that you will be resurrected from the dead and giving eternal live and not believe there will be thirteen apostles in the end time?  A possibility is that there could be 26 apostles since this is the second time preaching the Gospel and the world is much larger now.  Now, go back to 1Corinthians 10:11.

Notice that these things happened and were written for those upon whom the ends of the age have come.  These examples these prototypes these things to be imitated.  It is truly PLAYING CHURCH to think we would imitate Christ’s death and resurrection to eternal life with the Passover and reject other prototypes written in the same Holy Bible.  Let us not fool ourselves.  Go to Luke 9:1.

Luke 9:1  Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.

The word “called” is Strong’s #4779 and means “to convoke; call together.”  Are the words in Luke 9:1 not just as true as any of the words about Christ’s death and resurrection to eternal life?  Are we going to adamantly reject one verse and accept another while we contentedly play church, all the while 1 Corinthians 10:11 tells us that these things happened and are written for us to imitate that they are prototypes to be acted out by the end time church.

It is our choice as individuals to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling.  For me, I will not grieve the Holy Spirit by being and acting foolish as 50% of the end time virgins do.

Mat 25:2  And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.

Go back to Luke 9:1.  Christ does the calling of these apostles. They are not chosen by men.  Christ calls and gave them power and authority over demons and power to heal.  Notice also Mark 16:20.

Mar 16:20  And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

Signs follow.  Christ and the Father will put their stamp of approval on the ones they choose.  See Acts 3.

Act 3:1  Now Peter and John went up together into the temple at the hour of prayer, being the ninth hour.

Act 3:2  And a certain man lame from his mother’s womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms of them that entered into the temple;

Act 3:3  Who seeing Peter and John about to go into the temple asked an alms.

Act 3:4  And Peter, fastening his eyes upon him with John, said, Look on us.

Act 3:5  And he gave heed unto them, expecting to receive something of them.

Act 3:6  Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.

The church will be able to see who Christ has chosen and is using; of course Satan will have his many counterfeits out there, also.  You or I cannot choose to be an apostle or take it own ourselves to put our self in that position.  No doubt, many over ambitious men will try to exalt themselves through their own greed for power or through Satan’s inspiration.  Mat.23:12 will certainly come crashing down on them at some point.   No human being usurps Christ’s job of calling and appointing.

Mat 23:12  And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

There are plenty of opportunities for all in the end time church.  Let us let Christ use us as He sees fit and put us where He wants us.

Act 2:42  And they continued steadfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

Act 2:43  And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.

The two verses above seem to make clear that the apostles were the spiritual leaders and teachers.  If you study through all the New Testament, you will have a hard time finding any sign of the type of hierarchy that we see in some churches today.  There are numerous verses to the contrary.  Christ and the Father will do the backing up, exalting, inspiring of their chosen ones.  In the end time church operations there will be plenty of opportunity for everyone to work and serve God if we will only fit into the niche God gives us.  As we fulfill 1Corinthians 10:11 many of the type people describes in 3 John 9-10 and Acts 8:18-21 will come forward.

3John 1:9  I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.

3John1:10  Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church.

Act 8:18  And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,

Act 8:19  Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.

Act 8:20  But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.

Act 8:21  Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.

Matthew 7:15-20 give the church the guidelines it needs for recognizing the teachers God has chosen.

Mat 7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Mat 7:16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Mat 7:17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

Mat 7:18  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Mat 7:19  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Mat 7:20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

If the Holy Spirit leads us, we will be able to spot the discrepancies in the false apostles and teachers that Satan tries to pawn off on us.

2Co 11:13  For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

2Co 11:14  And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

2Co 11:15  Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Notice some examples of Christ backing up and inspiring His chosen, starting in Acts 2:14.  Notice also that Christ seems to exalt Peter.

Act 2:14  But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

The eleven other apostles were there, but Christ was using Peter’s voice again  in Acts 5.

Act 5:12  And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in Solomon’s porch.

Act 5:13  And of the rest durst no man join himself to them: but the people magnified them.

Act 5:14  And believers were the more added to the Lord, multitudes both of men and women.)

Act 5:15  Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the streets, and laid them on beds and couches, that at the least the shadow of Peter passing by might overshadow some of them.

All the apostles were involved, but Peter is singled out in verse 15 where Christ seems to exalt Peter.  Will we let God make the decisions and not try to go where God does not want us?

Act 5:1  But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,

Act 5:2  And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.

Act 5:8  And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.

Act 5:9  Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.

Notice in verse 2 it mentions the apostles, so we have to think it talks of all them but again in verse 8-9 Peter is called by name.  In this example Christ certainly backed up his chosen.  The calling and the work of Paul certainly shows how God calls, converts, inspires us, and backs up his chosen ones.  We are all His chosen ones.  We will see how ordinary members can go from being an average person to doing things that can have them named in the Bible. What an honor!  This will happen again if we act out 1Corinthians 10:11.

It seems obvious that the book of Acts is unfinished as it ends abruptly without any signature.  The Acts of the end time church will make the early church look like child’s play.  The people in the millennium and white throne judgment eras will read it.

In Acts 11, you can see how Christ sent Peter to the gentiles.  Can we stay out of God’s way and let him use us as He sees fit?

Act 11:13  And he showed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter;

Act 11:14  Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.

Act 11:15  And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.

Act 11:16  Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.

It cannot be emphasized enough that Christ will put the men and women of the end time church in the positions He wants them and then will back up His decisions.

Mar 16:17  And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Mar 16:18  They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Mar 16:19  So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Mar 16:20  And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

Notice what it says in 1Corinthians 12:28.

1Co 12:28  And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

“Set” is Strong’s #5087, primary meaning is “to place (in the widest application)…”  God uses the church also to choose and place certain people for certain jobs, but He still does it through the Holy Spirit.  It also says God set or placed some in the church, first, apostles.  Is this some sort of rank like in the army first lieutenant or is this simply saying He chose the apostles first?  That is what other parts of the New Testament tell us.  Christ actually chose the apostles first.

Luke 9:1  Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.

Luke 9:2  And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.

He did not choose the ordinary member first and later chose the apostles to teach.  That is not a rank, it is an orderly sequence, 1 Corinthians 14:40

1Co 14:40  Let all things be done decently and in order.

God is no respecter of persons, Acts 10:34.

Act 10:34  Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

1Co 14:5  I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh, with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

Greater in verse 5 is not a rank, speaking in tongues is as great as prophesying if it is interpreted.  The Living Bible Paraphrased translates this verse as follows.

I wish you all had the gift of “speaking in tongues” but, even more, I wish you were all able to prophesy preaching God’s messages, for that is a greater and more useful power than to speak in unknown languages – unless, of course, you can tell everyone afterwards what you were saying, so that they can get some good of it too.

1Cor 14:5 has nothing to do with rank, but certainly implies that average church members will be producing fruits of the Holy Spirit.  These gifts are for us all, not just the hierarchy elite.  What about 2 Corinthians 10:8 and 13:10?

2Co 10:8  For though I should boast somewhat more of our authority, which the Lord hath given us for edification, and not for your destruction, I should not be ashamed:

2Co 13:10  Therefore I write these things being absent, lest being present I should use sharpness, according to the power which the Lord hath given me to edification, and not to destruction.

The word “authority” in verse 10:8 and “power” in 13:10 are both Strong’s # 1849 meaning “(in the sense of ability): privilege, i.e. (subj) force, capacity, competency, freedom…”  That is also the same word used in Luke 9:1, translated “authority.”

Luke 9:1  Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.

The disciples were given this power over demons, as we in the end time will be also.  This power was to be used for edification, not for lording it over God’s people.  Certainly, the miracles the apostles performed would be classed under the power that would be edifying.

If someone had to be put out of the church, the whole church did it.

Mat 18:15  Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

Mat 18:16  But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

Mat 18:17  And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen man and a publican.

Above all else as we study about the end time work of God, Philippians 2:12 has to be right at the top of our guidelines.

Phi 2:12  Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

We all have to have this chance to go one on one with Christ and the Father.  Can God give us the one-on-one guidance we need?  2Corinthians 12:1-4 tells me that He can.  He did it for Paul.

2Co 12:1  It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.

2Co 12:2  I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such a one caught up to the third heaven.

2Co 12:3  And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)

2Co 12:4  How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

1Co 16:1  Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.

1Co 16:2  Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

1Co 16:3  And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem.

In the three verse above, is this iron-fisted hierarchy, dictatorship in action?  Some people would take the word’s “given order” in verse one to mean just that.  “Given order” is Strong’s #1299 meaning “to arrange thoroughly, i.e. (spec.) institute, prescribe…”  This seems to be a time saving move on Paul’s part, verse 2.  Notice also the church had input in verse 3.   Continue in verse 6 of 1 Corinthians 16.

1Co 16:6  And it may be that I will abide, yea, and winter with you, that ye may bring me on my journey whithersoever I go.

“Bring me on my journey,” is Strong’s # 4311, “to send forward, i.e., escort or aid in travel; – accompany, bring (forward) on journey…”  This is the parable of the pounds in action showing church involvement.

Luke 19:16  Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.

This is the way we can use God’s tithe money ourselves.  Have complete input to how it is spent.  Notice in Mat 25:20 it says “I have gained five talents more,” NOT I and anyone else, just I and Jesus Christ.

Mat 25:20  And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more.

I cannot believe how blind I personally was for so many years to blatantly disobey God’s Word and give HIS tithes to someone else to spend FOR me.

Gal 2:9  And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

Where is the hierarchy in this verse?  Did anyone try to pull rank so to speak or is this true eldership the way God would have it?  This is the Holy Spirit at work.

Now look at 1 Corinthians 16:10-12.

1Co 16:10  Now if Timothy come, see that he may be with you without fear: for he worketh the work of the Lord, as I also do.

1Co 16:11  Let no man therefore despise him: but conduct him forth in peace, that he may come unto me: for I look for him with the brethren.

1Co 16:12  As touching our brother Apollos, I greatly desired him to come unto you with the brethren: but his will was not at all to come at this time; but he will come when he shall have convenient time.

Is there any hierarchy at work here?  Did Paul pass out any commands to Timothy and Apollos?  Where in these verses is the authority from the top down that some churches teach?  These three verses are Phil 2:12 in action.

Phi 2:12  Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Christ was doing His work through these men, each responding to Christ’s leadership as the Holy Spirit led them.  Can we start to see the way God expects the church to act as we do the end-time work?  Go to 2Corinthians 8:16, 19.

2Co 8:16  But thanks be to God, which put the same earnest care into the heart of Titus for you.

2Co 8:19  And not that only, but who was also chosen of the churches to travel with us with this grace, which is administered by us to the glory of the same Lord, and declaration of your ready mind:

Notice the church input here, “chosen of the churches.”  The word “chosen” is Strong’s #5500 meaning “(to stretch) to be a hand reacher or voter (by raising the hand), i.e. (gen) to select or appoint:- choose, ordain.”  Are you allowed to vote on who your leaders are in your church? You should be.  God gives the members of the church proof through the Holy Spirit of whom he is using.

2Co 12:12  Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds.

Mar 16:20  And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

The first chapter of Galatians would give a little more insight into that if you care to study it.  In 2Corinthians 11:8-9, 12-15 there is more church involvement here.

2Co 11:8  I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service.

2Co 11:9  And when I was present with you, and wanted, I was chargable to no man: for that which was lacking to me the brethren which came from Macedonia supplied: and in all things I have kept myself from being burdensome unto you, and sowill I keep myself.

Co 11:12  But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.

2Co 11:13  For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

2Co 11:14  And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

2Co 11:15  Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Paul apparently had accepted “wages” from first tithe or offerings to go on to the next job Christ gave him.  Study Eph 4:11 where Christ gives the positions.

Eph 4:11  And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

We watch for the signs to follow then we can be a hand reacher a voter and vote on it to confirm a person in office.  Remember you shall know a tree by its fruits.  Fruits are definitely part of signs following.

Luke 6:43  For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Luk 6:44  For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

Mat 7:17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

Mat 7:18  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Mat 7:19  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Mat 7:20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

1 Tim 1:12  And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;

1Timothy 1:12 is clear about who does what.  It states plainly that Christ puts someone in the ministry.  The only way that we as ordinary members standing on the sidelines can tell what is going on is by the signs that follow.

2Thessalonians 3:8-11 is a gauge of a true minister’s attitude.

2Th 3:8  Neither did we eat any man’s bread for naught; but wrought with labor and travail night and day, that we might not be chargable to any of you:

2Th 3:9  Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an example unto you to follow us.

2Th 3:10  For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

2Th 3:11  For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.

ARE THE MINISTERS YOU KOW WILLING TO GO OUT AND PRODUCE A LIVING BY THE SWEAT OF THEIR OWN BROW?  There is no question about whether a minister can take tithe to live on and it is clear that Paul did on occasion, but it is also abundantly clear that Paul would work to pay his own way.  We will look at that closer below.  This is surely one of the gauges we can use to answer the questions we would have about anyone who emerges as a teacher.

Gal 2:11  But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

Gal 2:12  For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.

Gal 2:13  And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.

Gal 2:14  But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

Galatians 2 gives us another clear example of how there was no hierarchy in the early church as we know it today.  Why did Peter not pull rank on Paul after all Peter was there as a servant of Christ long before Paul?  We really need to start believing what God’s Word says and learn from the examples it gives us.  Go to Gal 6:6.

Gal 6:6  Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.

“Communicate” is Strong’s #2841 meaning primarily “to share with others…”  In reality the communicating, the sharing, the discussing of verses and Bible principles is the way a typical Sabbath service should be held.  Read Acts 17:2; 18:4; 18:19.

Act 17:2  And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the Scriptures,

Act 18:4  And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

Act 18:19  And he came to Ephesus, and left them there: but he himself entered into the synagogue, and reasoned with the Jews.

“Reasoned” in all three verses is Strong’s #1256 meaning “to say thoroughly, i.e. discuss (in argument or exhortation)…”  Is this the kind of Sabbath assembly with open dialogue that we have experienced in the past?  If you read the context you will see that Paul was in three different cities in these verses.  Notice also in 17:2 that this was his manner.  “Manner” is Strong’s #1486 meaning “to be used as habit or conventionality…”  Paul’s habit on the Sabbath was to discuss God’s Word with others.  Can we in 2001 take Christ at His word and do the Sabbath assembly correctly and have open discussion, not having some dictator give a lecture and impose his opinion on the people with no input from the congregation.  There is a place for a long lecture on the Sabbath, but that is not typical.  I will be doing an article about a Typical Sabbath Service after I finish this paper.

Let us look at some other verses about a MINISTER BEING WILLING TO WORK and produce his own living, Acts 18:1-3.

Act 18:1  After these things Paul departed from Athens and came to Corinth;

Act 18:2  And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy, with his wife Priscilla; because that (Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart from Rome:) and came unto them.

Act 18:3  And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers.

The word “wrought” in verse 3 is Strong’s #2038 meaning “to toil (as a task or occupation…”  Paul was a real servant of God.  He was willing to suffer whatever necessary to help the brethren.

1Co 9:6  Or I only and Barnabas, have not we power to forbear working?

1Co 9:7  Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock?

1Co 9:8  Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also?

1Co 9:9  For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?

A proven minister can live off the tithes and offering of the church, but in many instances Paul would choose to work with his hands to be able to accomplish the most spiritual good.  We should look for that same willingness to work in our ministers today.  It is very hard to find examples in the New Testament of a hierarchy of the sort the many are familiar with in 2001.  Notice Acts 8:4-5.

Act 8:4  Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.

Act 8:5  Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.

Was there a restriction on who could preach?  This verse could very well include women.  You would have a hard time finding gender in verse 4.  The word “preaching” is Strong’s #2097 meaning primarily ” to announce good news…”   What happened when the apostles heard about this?  They sent Peter and John.  When they came down, did they put everyone out of the church?  No.  They prayed for the converted that they might receive the Holy Spirit. Acts 8:14-15.

Act 8:14  Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:

Act 8:15  Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:

Some more on Christ backing up whom He chooses is found in Acts 5 in the Ananias and Sapphira example.  This shows that the church will be able to tell whom God is using.  Acts 5:1-16.

Act 5:1  But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,

Act 5:2  And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.

Act 5:3  But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

Act 5:4  While it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

Act 5:5  And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

Act 5:6  And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.

Act 5:7  And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.

Act 5:8  And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.

Act 5:9  Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.

Act 5:10  Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.

Act 5:11  And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.

Act 5:12  And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in Solomon’s porch.

Act 5:13  And of the rest durst no man join himself to them: but the people magnified them.

Act 5:14  And believers were the more added to the Lord, multitudes both of men and women.)

Act 5:15  Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the streets, and laid them on beds and couches, that at the least the shadow of Peter passing by might overshadow some of them.

Act 5:16  There came also a multitude out of the cities round about unto Jerusalem, bringing sick folks, and them which were vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed every one.

Another example of how God deals with the church is found in Acts 9:10-15.

Act 9:10  And there was a certain disciple at Damascus named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord.

Act 9:11  And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and inquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,

Act 9:12  And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.

Act 9:13  Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:

Act 9:14  And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.

Act 9:15  But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

Apparently, Ananias was just your average disciple (student, learner, pupil).  We would call him an ordinary guy.  Notice how Christ dealt with Ananias and Paul.  The passage speaks for itself and is very clear.  This is God’s way, his instruction to us, the way we will do things in the end time.

Do not forget 1Corinthians 10:11, “Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.”

“Examples” is Strong’s #5179: “a die (as struck), i.e. (by impl.) a stamp or scar; by anal. a shape, i.e. statue, (fig.) style or resemblance; spec. a sampler (“type“), i.e. a model (for imitation) or instance (for warning).”

Zodhiates’ Complete Word Study New Testament says: “type, as a constituent element of a parable or model of some reality which was yet to appear, a prototype of that which was yet to be developed and evolved.”

“Admonition” is Strong’s #3559: “calling attention to, i.e. (by impl.) mild rebuke or warning.”

“World” is Strong’s #165: “prop. an age; by extens. perpetuity (also past); by impl. the world; spec. (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future):—age, course, eternal, (for) ever (-more), [n-]ever, (beginning of the , while the) world (began, without end).”

This is Phil. 2:12 in action.

Phi 2:12  Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Each member has a part to do in the end time work as Christ and the Father see fit.  God will do the communicating to us as needed.  In verse 17 below, Paul was experiencing a vision from God.

Act 22:17  And it came to pass, that, when I was come again to Jerusalem, even while I prayed in the temple, I was in a trance;

God sent Peter a vision also, in verse 10 below.

Act 10:9  On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:

Act 10:10  And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,

Act 10:11  And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

Act 10:12  Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

Act 10:13  And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

Act 10:14  But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

Act 10:15  And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

Act 10:16  This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

Act 10:17  Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made inquiry for Simon’s house, and stood before the gate,

Act 10:18  And called, and asked whether Simon, which was surnamed Peter, were lodged there.

Act 10:19  While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.

Notice how Christ communicated with Peter when it was needed in verse 19.  Consider the following verses.

Phi 2:19  But I trust in the Lord Jesus to send Timothy shortly unto you, that I also may be of good comfort, when I know your state.

Phi 2:20  For I have no man likeminded, who will naturally care for your state.

Philippians 2:19-20 does not show any iron-fisted hierarchy of Paul over Timothy.  The word “trust” is Strong’s #1679 meaning “to expect or confide; (have, thing, hope)…”

Paul was leaving it up to Christ to send Timothy or not to send him.  Paul knew that was Christ’s decision to make.  The following is a favorite of the hierarchist.

1Thessalonians 5:12  And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labor among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you;

The phrase “are over” is Strong’s #4291.  The primary meaning is “to stand before, i.e. (in rank) to preside or (by impl.) to practice.”  Berry’s Greek to English Interlinear translates this phrase as “take the lead.”  Green’s Greek to English Interlinear translates it as “taking the lead.”  There is a tremendous difference in taking the lead the way Paul and the other apostles did compared to the iron-fisted hierarchy that exists in some churches.

What about 1Corinthians 12:7-11.?

1Co 12:7  But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

1Co 12:8  For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

1Co 12:9  To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

1Co 12:10  To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

1Co 12:11  But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

Does the phrase “every man” show prejudice against women? You bet it does.  It’s been said and no doubt is true that the King James translators were hierarchists and their work in the King James Bible substantiates that.  The phrase “every man” is Strong’s #1538 meaning “each or every, any, both, each (one)…”  Zodhiates’ Lexical Aids to the New Testament says of this phrase, “each, everyone, of any number separately.”  Greens Interlinear translates it as “each one.”  Berry’s Interlinear uses “to each” of the same phrase.

Now go to 1Corinthians 14:26 to see how the same Greek word is used.  The phrase “every one” is Strong’s #1538.

1Co 14:26  How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

What does this tell us?  It tells us that men and women are equal in the gifts of the Spirit.  That opens up a completely new look at God’s Word concerning a woman’s place in the church.  Can we humans do something that God has not done in these verses?  Can we assign rank or refuse a woman what God says is hers?  A word to the wise, we will do well to let God’s Word tell us what to do.

I want to revisit these verses later as I go to more verses that tell us about a woman’s place in the church.  Take a look at 1 Corinthians 12:28.   Is this a system of rank?  I hardly think so.  In the New Testament church, who were the first people called?  Was it not the apostles?  It is obvious that the apostles were set or placed in the church first.

1Co 12:28  And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

Christ certainly did not call the members first and then the apostles.  Is this verse simply an outline of how the end time church of God will come into existence?  We will only know in hindsight.

I firmly believe that the hierarchy system has greatly abused women’s positions or places in the church.  God hates that system.  If you would like to study that subject, start with Revelation 2:6 and 15 about the Deeds of the Nicolaitans.

Rev 2:6  But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.

Rev 2:15  So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.

I have covered this in other papers and will not go into it here.

The Bible has to be our guide in our life if we are to be a Christian in the end time.  We cannot change God’s Word about women in the church.  We must not change God’s Word to fit our preconceived beliefs.  We men in God’s Church will do well to make the Bible our guideline as to what we think and how we treat our wives, daughters, and other women in the church.  The way it has been done in the past is wrong in many churches.

We men have really perverted and stretched the scriptures in the past concerning a woman’s place in God’s Church.  I am the first to say that I do not clearly understand today, August 27, 2001, all the verses concerning women in God’s Church, but some of the verses are clear to me.  It is also clear that Satan’s dastardly hierarchy system has caused many women in God’s church to be treated shamefully by over zealous men who were and still are to this day thinking of and treating like dirt many women especially wives.

As we go through these verses, I will say what I do and do not understand.  Look at Ephesians 5, 1 Peter 3 and Colossians. 3.

Eph 5:22  Wives, submit [Strong’s #5293] yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Eph 5:23  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body.

Eph 5:24  Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Eph 5:25  Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

1Pe 3:1  Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection [Strong’s #5293} to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;

1Pe 3:5  For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:

1Pe 3:7  Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honor unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Col 3:18  Wives, submit [Strong’s #5293] yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

In Ephesians 5 and Colossians 3, the words “submit,” also “subjection” in 1 Peter, is Strong’s #5293 and means “to subordinate, to obey, -be under obedience…”

You men must understand one thing right up front.  The first loyalty and obedience of any woman including your wife is to Jesus Christ and the Father.  Phil.2:12 supports this.

Phi 2:12  Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Your wife is commanded first “to work out her own salvation with fear and trembling,” and it does not say the husband is a dictator in the middle of the process.  This verse means a one on one relationship with Christ and the Father and we husbands better stay out of that mix except maybe to help our wives.  Any of you men who think you can usurp Jesus Christ’s commands are going to get in a whole lot of trouble with God.

Phi 2:5  Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

This verse is not a suggestion, it is a command.  Phil. 2:12 IS the mind of Christ and we will do well to believe it.  God has winked at our ignorance in the past, but that is over now.

Act 17:30  And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

We men have no God-given inalienable right to interfere in any way in the way our mates work out their own salvation.  Phil.2:12 is above and beyond anything else in our quest for salvation.  Webster’s Dictionary says of the word “submit” that the first meaning is “to surrender or yield (oneself) to the will or authority of another.  “Subordinate” has the number one meaning “belonging to a class or rank lower than another.”  Is this some of the results of King James era hierarchist thinking, the way this is translated?  These words “submit” and “subjection” should be translated “subordinate to” your husband.

Review above definitions.

I see a tremendous difference as much as day and night in being in a class or rank lower than in bending to some dictator’s will.  Are you husbands in a rank lower than Christ?  You bet we all are.

Eph 5:24  Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Does Christ force us to bend to His will?  Does He not give us the right to choose?  Then, we men had better give the women the right to choose, also.  I will not dwell a lot on this subject in this paper, as I will be doing a paper on submitting as soon as this one is finished.

What does the assigning of rank by Jesus Christ in this case for women to be subordinate to men a rank lower have to do with Gen. 3:16?

Gen 3:16  Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Is this in fact when this rank was assigned?  I will visit this verse again in the upcoming paper.

Go back to Colossians 3:18.

Col 3:18  Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

Wives, subordinate (put yourself in a lower rank) to your husband as fit in the Lord.  How is it fit in the Lord?  Fit” is Strong’s #433 meaning “to attain to, i.e., (fig) be proper, convenient, be fit.”  The Bible has to be an end time Christian guide.   Let us look at a few verses that tell us what is fit in the Lord.

1Timothy 2:11  Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

1Ti 2:12  But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1Ti 2:13  For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

1Corinthians 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

1Co 14:34  Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

1Co 14:35  And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

1Co 14:36  What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?

1Co 14:37  If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

1Co 14:38  But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

1Co 14:39  Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

1Co 14:40  Let all things be done decently and in order.

Here in 1 Timothy the rank is very clear.  “Subjection” is Strong’s #5292 meaning “subordination…”  This has to be a formal church service Paul was speaking of as we will see later there are plenty of places for women to speak. Think for a second.  Seeing what we do at this point, would it have been proper for a woman to interrupt Peter in his inspired Pentecost sermon in Acts 2?  No way!

In 1 Corinthians 14 Paul excelled in leaving things less than clear to me.  The context is very important here, but without doubt God will make this abundantly clear as the end time church wakes up.  Do not verses 33 and 40 give us the goal, which is order and a lack of confusion in the church assemblies?  Notice in verse 35 that God makes a statement that wives are to ask husbands.  What if a woman has no husband or her husband is one of the many weeds/tares who are playing church?  What is she to do?

I want to inject a thought here and I will be doing a paper also on a typical Sabbath assembly in the near future.  A typical Sabbath service or assembly has a lot of open discussion.  It is not the 1 hour to 1.5 hour long sermon dominated by some man.  This type situation will have its place in the end time churches as the God selected and backed up by God teachers start coming forth, but we will see that is not normal Sabbath procedure.  For instance, an example of this could be as we go into all the world to preach the gospel, say the Denver Colorado congregation may send one or two of their teachers to South America on an evangelistic teaching tour.  When they come back, they may dominate Sabbath services for one or two weeks giving the local church a report on how their tithe money was spent.  That is the pounds and talents at work.  That is the way God will get the Gospel to the world in the end time through local efforts so every member has a part in it.  There will not be one centralized headquarters collecting all the tithe money and not using it wisely, as we have seen in the past.

Going back to the verse on women keeping silent, it is obvious that the fewer people who are in an open discussion the more orderly it will be.  God has said that wives with true Christian husbands should keep silent, but here again I have to think this is more of a formal teaching situation.  Let us look at a couple situations that will back this up.  I will also touch on this later.

What if a man is being considered for a deaconship or teaching position?  Whether you realize it now or not, the church should vote on these people.  What if one of these people who are being considered by the church for this position is known to be living a double life, for instance, married and committing adultery on the side.  Is anyone who has first hand knowledge, an eyewitness maybe, supposed to keep silent and let the whole church make a mistake?  I would certainly think Christ would want them to speak their mind and use scripture verses to back it up if necessary.

Mat 18:15  Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

Mat 18:16  But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

Mat 18:17  And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen man and a publican.

What if some false accusations are being made by tares in this situation and a woman or even two or more women know the truth about the situation, would they not be bound by the Word of God, the very Bible we live by, to tell this truth?  They should speak that knowledge in a church assembly on the Sabbath as some members might have difficulty in attending a non-Sabbath function.  After all, it would be a church matter and probably would be dealt with in a church service.  As I said earlier this is somewhat unclear to me the way God inspired Paul to cloud the meaning of things.

Let us go deeper into 1 Corinthians 14:26.

1Co 14:26  How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

“Every one” is Strong’s #1538 meaning “each or every – any, both, each(one), every(man, one, woman) particularly.”  “Brethren” is Strong’s #80 meaning “a brother (lit or fig) near or remote…”  I ask you, husbands and men, are we going to say and insist that these two words do not include women?  Do we not speak of the congregation as brethren?  We certainly do not say brethren and “sistern.”

What does every one of these brethren (including women) have? A psalm, a doctrine, a tongue (language) a revelation, in interpretation.

Doctrine is Strong’s #1322 meaning “instruction (the act or the matter)…” Zodhiates’ Lexical Aids says of this word “doctrine” in the active sense it means “the art of teaching, instructing, tutoring…”

Tongue” is Strong’s # 1100 meaning, “the tongue, by impl. a language (spec. one naturally unacquired)- tongue.”  “Revelation” is Strong’s #602 meaning “disclosure;- appearing, coming, lighten, manifestation, be revealed, revelation.” “interpretation” is Strong’s #2058 meaning, “translation; interpretation.”

“Let all things be done unto edifying.”  Paul is stressing order in the church assembly, not a free for all.  For any hierarchist to insist that this verse does not include women is certainly twisting the Word of God.  Do women not have to open their mouth and talk to express this tongue, language, revelation, interpretation, etc? Let’s wake up, men.

1Co 14:27  If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.

In verse 27, “man” is Strong’s #5100.  The primary meaning is “some or any person or object- a (kind of), any(man, thing, thing at all)…”  Doesn’t any person include women?  Here again in this verse Paul is stressing order.  Two or three speakers at most and also interpretation is needed.  “Course” is Strong’s # 3313 meaning “to get as section or allotment, a division or share…”  Now notice this speaking in a section or allotment, a certain space of time is when we come together in verse 26 in a Sabbath assembly.

I can only say to you hierarchists who refuse to let women have what God has given them, “Good luck in the resurrection.”

Continuing in 1 Corinthians 14:28, Paul is stressing order in this verse.  If someone was speaking in another language with no interpretation, it sure would be a confusing assembly.

1Co 14:28  But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

1Co 14:29  Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

Does verse 29 describe the typical Sabbath service we attended?  This judging would open up a discussion.  “Judge” is Strong’s #1252 meaning primarily “to separate thoroughly…”  This is God’s safety net.  A minister or teacher cannot ram untrue doctrine down the congregation’s throat.  With open discussion amongst the congregation, we can separate the truth from the lies.  This judging brought about by open discussion by everyone in attendance would certainly have to include women.

Go to Acts 21:9.

Act 21:9  And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.

The word “prophesy” is Strong’s #4395 meaning primarily, “to foretell events, divine, speak under inspiration…”  Where do women prophets foretell events, speak under inspiration, out in the woods somewhere talking to a tree?  Why would God inspire them to speak if it was not to be allowed in a church assembly?  If God inspires it, would men not profit from the inspired word of God?  Come on men, it’s time we quit twisting the scriptures.  God has used and will use women in a big way.  We best get used to it, guys.  Do not be surprised if many women are not used in bigger ways than men whose hearts are not right.  Women can be subordinate, lower in rank, than men and still be used of God mightily.  Read the following verses.  See that these women were important enough in God’s sight to be named in the Bible.  What an honor.

Exo 15:20  And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.

Judg 4:4  And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.

2Ki 22:14  So Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam, and Achbor, and Shaphan, and Asahiah, went unto Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college;) and they communed with her.

2Ch 34:22  And Hilkiah, and they that the king had appointed, went to Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvath, the son of Hasrah, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college:) and they spoke to her to that effect.

Neh 6:14  My God, think thou upon Tobiah and Sanballat according to these their works, and on the prophetess Noadiah, and the rest of the prophets, that would have put me in fear.

Isa 8:3  And I went unto the prophetess; and she conceived, and bore a son. Then said the LORD to me, Call his name Maher-shalal-hash-baz.

      Luk 2:36  And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher: she was of a great age, and had lived with a husband seven years from her virginity;

Continuing in 1Corinthians 14:30, Paul is stressing order.

1Co 14:30  If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.

1Co 14:31  For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.

This verse also shows that no one person dominates a Sabbath assembly.  Continuing in verse 31, the word “all” appears three times in this verse.  It is Strong’s #3956 meaning “all, any every, the whole…”  When will people stop saying that this does not apply to women?  If all, any, every, the whole may learn and may be comforted, it sure applies to prophesy.  If men would prophesy in a church, would not women also prophesy?  If men would learn and be comforted in a church assembly, would not women do the same?

Consider what 1 Corinthians 14:23 says.

1Co 14:23  If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?

The word “whole” is Strong’s #3650 meaning “whole, or all, i.e. complete (in extent, amount, time, or degree)…”  This includes women. Show me, men, where women are not included in this ability to speak in other languages.  Notice also in the verse above when the church “comes together,” this is Strong’s # 4905, primarily meaning “to convene…”  Is this a church service or not and most likely it would be on the Sabbath.

1Co 14:24  But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:

Continuing in verse 24, “all “is Strong’s #3956 meaning “all, any, every, the whole…”  This includes women that can prophesy when the whole church comes together.  This certainly means that on certain occasions that women can speak in church.  After we get it all together, possibly we will see that this is more often than not.

Study 1Corinthians 11:4-5.

1Co 11:4  Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoreth his head.

1Co 11:5  But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoreth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

Are not men and women equal here? This is a church assembly probably on the Sabbath.  Let us revisit 1Corinthians 14:34.

1Co 14:34  Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

This word “speak” is Strong’s # 2980.  Primary meaning “to talk, i.e., utter words: – preach, say speak…”  Zodhiates Lexical Aids says, “when reference is made to those who spoke in tongues whether foreign languages or the Corinthian unknown tongue, it is always referred to as laleo glossais in Mark 16:17, Acts 2:4; 1 Corinthians 12:30, emphasizing not the content of the speech, but merely that they uttered sounds as far as the hearers were concerned.”

That is exactly what 1Corinthians 14:28 below says.  Do not utter sounds or words if there is no one to interpret.  Is this saying that if what the woman has to say is the equivalent of just uttering words or sounds, as far as the hearers are concerned it is a shame for her to do that and it is better unsaid?  Does this mean that if what she has to say is inspiring, uplifting, true Bible information that the congregation should hear and discuss it?

In 1Tim 2:12 the word “teach” is Strong’s # 1321, an entirely different word.  It means “to teach…”

1Ti 2:12  But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

This has to do with a formal church assembly where there is a teacher teaching a subject or topic.  Some things will take a certain period of time to explain. The only way I can see this today Sept 2 2001 is in that frame but as I said earlier a lot of this is unclear to me and I am certainly not the last word on it.  There is a lot of difference in a formal teaching session and an open discussion.

Take a look at “apt to teach” in 2 Tim. 2:24 and 1 Tim 3:2.

2Ti 2:24  And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

1Ti 3:2  A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behavior, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

How would the church know if someone were a good teacher?  When a church assembly is operated by God’s rules, people will have the chance to teach, then in open discussions prove or disprove a point from the bible that has been brought up.  1Corinthians 14:27 and 29 show how Paul allowed this.

1Co 14:27  If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.

1Co 14:28  But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

1Co 14:29  Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

The way some churches choose deacons and local elders certainly is not the way God instructs in the Bible.  The congregation should have input and make the decision.

1Ti 3:1  This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

1Ti 3:2  A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behavior, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

1Ti 3:3  Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

1Ti 3:4  One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

1Ti 3:5  (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

1Ti 3:6  Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

1Ti 3:7  Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

“Bishop” in verse 1 is Strong’s #1984 meaning “superintendent…”  My question is, who would know better than the congregation with all their eyes and ears who fulfills the qualifications in these verses.  The church should talk about these things in open discussion at a service where the congregation should do the choosing.

Acts 6:2  Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables.

Act 6:3  Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business.

Act 6:4  But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word.

Act 6:5  And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:

Act 6:6  Whom they set before the apostles: and when they had prayed, they laid their hands on them.

THE CHURCH CHOSE! When is the last time you had a chance to help do that in the church you attended?  If we will only follow God’s instruction, he will show us how to operate a church properly.

      1Ti 5:17  Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially they who labor in the word and doctrine.

1Ti 5:18  For the Scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The laborer is worthy of his reward.

I Tim. 5:17-18 shows us that the congregation can pay a wage to someone who labors in the Gospel and needs a wage.  This is one way our pound can gain 10 pounds.  How does the congregation choose elders and deacon, Titus 1:5?

      Tit 1:5  For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:

The word “ordain” is Strong’s #2525 meaning “to place down (permanently), i.e., fig. designate…”  So how did Titus place down permanently these elders?   Acts 14:23 tells us the process.

“Ordained” here is Strong’s #5500 meaning “(to stretch) to be a hand-reacher or VOTER (by raising the hand) i.e. to select or appoint…”  This ordaining happened after the church had been in existence for a while. Acts 14:21-23 says, “THEY RETURNED AGAIN.”

Act 14:21  And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and had taught many, they returned again to Lystra, and to Iconium, and Antioch,

Act 14:22  Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Act 14:23  And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.

The congregation had enough time to sort itself out through the Holy Spirit as individuals that wanted to could express themselves.  God will point out the teachers and leaders by their fruits to the congregation.  Any church leader, deacon, or elder today who was not put into office by the congregation is in office ILLEGALLY in God’s sight.  Compare 1 Peter 5:1-5 with what you have seen in some other churches.

1Pe 5:1  The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:

1Pe 5:2  Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;

1Pe 5:3  Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being examples to the flock.

1Pe 5:4  And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.

1Pe 5:5  Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.

In verse 3, “being lords over” is Strong’s #2634 meaning “to lord against, i.e., subjugate, exercise dominions over (lordship), be lord over…”  Many churches today do the exact opposite of what God’s Word actually says.

Let us go through a number of other examples and verses that give us information on how the end time church should operate.  Let us not lose sight of 1Corinthians 10:11.  “Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.”

“Examples” is Strong’s #5179: “a die (as struck), i.e. (by impl.) a stamp or scar; by anal. a shape, i.e. statue, (fig.) style or resemblance; spec. a sampler (“type“), i.e. a model (for imitation) or instance (for warning).”

Zodhiates’ Complete Word Study New Testament says: “type, as a constituent element of a parable or model of some reality which was yet to appear, a prototype of that which was yet to be developed and evolved.”

“Admonition” is Strong’s #3559: “calling attention to, i.e. (by impl.) mild rebuke or warning.”

“World” is Strong’s #165: “prop. an age; by extens. perpetuity (also past); by impl. the world; spec. (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future):—age, course, eternal, (for) ever (-more), [n-]ever, (beginning of the , while the) world (began, without end).”

The written word of God comes so clear after we understand this.  Acts 1:8 tells us our future.  This is also mentioned in the Gospels.

Act 1:8  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

We have access in the end time to the uttermost parts of the earth and we will have to go there with God’s good news.  This is how the pound gains ten pounds and the talent gains five more.

Education, doctorates, and degrees have nothing to do with anything in the end time.  Notice Acts 4:13.

Act 4:13  Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marveled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.

Peter and John did not meet the standards of the day.  “Unlearned” is Strong’s #62 meaning “unlettered, i.e., illiterate; unlearned.”  “Ignorant” is Strong’s #2399 meaning “a private person, i.e. (by impl.) an ignoramus (comp. idiot)…”

Does God recommend Seminaries for training ministers?  Who trained the 12 apostles and Paul?  Was it not the Father and Christ?  Did they have a man in the middle of the process?  Or, were they fully capable of doing the job all by themselves?  Education is not wrong.  I wish I had more than the high school that I have.  In today’s world we need education to survive financially, but to equate or think that doctorates or degrees will make you qualified to be a leader in God’s true end time church is foolish.  It can be said that Paul tutored Timothy and Titus. There is nothing wrong with that.

In Acts 1, the choosing of a new apostle to replace Judas seems to have been a congregational effort with Peter being the spokesperson.

Act 1:12  Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day’s journey.

Act 1:13  And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas thebrother of James.

Act 1:14  These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.

Act 1:15  And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about a hundred and twenty,)

Act 1:16  Men and brethren, this Scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.

Act 1:17  For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry.

Act 1:18  Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.

Act 1:19  And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.

Act 1:20  For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishopric let another take.

Act 1:21  Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,

Act 1:22  Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.

Act 1:23  And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias.

Act 1:24  And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, show whether of these two thou hast chosen,

Act 1:25  That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

Act 1:26  And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

In verses 14-15, Christ’s mother and brothers were there among the group of about 120.  In verses 23-24 and 26, they appointed, they prayed and they gave their “lots.”   Casting lots was a way of voting in this case.  This clearly was a congregational effort. If they followed Paul’s example, the congregation had a vote on it by raising their hands.  Is there any reason to believe that they did not VOTE like Paul?  After all, Christ is the same today, yesterday and forever.

Act 14:23  And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.

Acts 2 gives us a glimpse of what the end time church will experience.  Notice especially verse 17.  this gives us more insight into how a church congregation will be operated.

Act 2:16  But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

Act 2:17  And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Act 2:18  And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Act 2:19  And I will show wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke:

Act 2:20  The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

If sons and daughters prophesy, see visions and old men dream dreams, will the congregations not be obliged to let these people speak in the assemblies?  Will not these prophesies, dreams and visions need to be discussed among the members of the church where they happen?  You bet they will.  God used dreams and visions in the past to communicate with His people.  What about 1Corinthians 10:11, is it true or not?  Review on page 1.

Go back to verse 17.  Do you see any restrictions on who does the prophesying, sees the visions, or dreams the dreams?  The only restriction is the condition of the human heart, and Christ and the Father determine that.

Act 6:1  And in those days, when the number of the disciples were multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration.

Act 6:2  Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables.

Act 6:3  Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business.

Act 6:4  But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word.

Act 6:5  And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:

Act 6:6  Whom they set before the apostles: and when they had prayed, they laid their hands on them.

Act 6:7  And the word of God increased; and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem greatly; and a great company of the priests were obedient to the faith.

Acts 6:1-7 give us more valuable insight into how a church functions.  Notice in verse 3 that the congregation was told to pick the men out.  Notice the last phrase “whom we may appoint over the business.”  “appoint is Strong’s #2525 meaning “to place down permanently…”   This is the same word we covered earlier where Titus was told by Paul to do that.  Titus 1:5 in this verse the word “ordain” is Strong’s #2525.

Tit 1:5  For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:

Continue in Acts 6: 5, where the church chose the seven men.  Does your church allow you to vote on who becomes an elder or deacon?  If not, you need to change churches.  In verse 6, when the congregation had done their part, they brought these men to the apostles and they prayed over them and laid hands on them.  We just covered in verse 3 the example of Strong’s #2525 “appoint, ordain,” that is God’s process for choosing a deacon or someone for some other office in God’s end time churches.  WILL WE DO IT OR NOT?  Acts 8:4 gives us instruction on who does what in the church.

Act 8:4  Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.

Is there any GENDER intended here?  If there is, I cannot determine it.  They that were scattered abroad went everywhere preaching the Word.  “Preaching” is Strong’s #2097 meaning “to announce good news (evangelize) espec. the gospel…”  Do you have trouble understanding this?  If so, maybe it is because of how we think of the term evangelize, the way it was used to adorn a man with a TITLE in many churches.  The way the term was used may have flavored our definition of evangelist or to evangelize.

Look at a scenario of what could have transpired when the members were scattered throughout the regions.  Perhaps a family moved far from Jerusalem to escape the persecution.  A couple of women might have asked the woman of the family “Where did you come from? Why did you move here?”  The woman would tell the truth and give them a Bible talk about all the events in her family’s life that led to their settling in this new land or region.  Would this not be announcing the good news, or evangelizing?  This does not have to happen at a church assembly, but it could happen in the street, at the market, in the front yard, or over the back yard fence, etc.  Do not underestimate what God has planned for the women of the church.  The bottom line is all the church members work for Christ.  See how God used Philip in the verses below.

      Act 8:26  And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.

Act 8:29  Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.

Act 8:39  And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

Unger’s Bible Dictionary says that this was Philip the Evangelist.

      Act 21:8  And the next day we that were of Paul’s company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was was one of the seven; and abode with him.

Act 6:5  And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:

Mat 10:2  Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;

Mat 10:3  Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus whose surname was Thaddaeus;

It really makes no difference in this scenario because the person works for Christ, not some organization.  Continue that thought in Acts 11.

Act 11:4  But Peter rehearsed the matter from the beginning, and expounded it by order unto them, saying,

Act 11:5  I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came even to me:

Act 11:11  And, behold, immediately there were three men already come unto the house where I was, sent from Caesarea unto me.

Act 11:12  And the Spirit bade me go with them, nothing doubting. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered into the man’s house:

Did some physical human headquarters send Peter to do this?  No, Christ and the Father were dealing directly with him and the new gentile converts.  This example will be played out many times in the end time.  Do not forget 1Cor 10:11 and all that it means.  Review it on page one.  If the church sends and finances the end time Peters, Pauls, etc., that will be the pound at work gaining ten pounds.  If the Peters and Pauls have their own tithe money, it will be, “I have gained five talents more,” at work.

All members, not just men, will be a part of Acts 12:24 below.  That is our future in the end time if God’s word is true.  Is God’s Word true or not?  Is 1 Corinthians 10:11 true or not?  If it is, Acts 12:5, 7-9 was just a prototype of what will happen in the end time.  God will finally start to use his power openly in the church to help us.  We will not have to make excuses anymore because He has not responded.

      Act 12:5  Peter therefore was kept in prison: but prayer was made without ceasing of the church unto God for him.

Act 12:7  And, behold, the angel of the Lord came upon him, and a light shined in the prison: and he smote Peter on the side, and raised him up, saying, Arise up quickly. And his chains fell off from his hands.

Act 12:8  And the angel said unto him, Gird thyself, and bind on thy sandals. And so he did. And he saith unto him, Cast thy garment about thee, and follow me.

Act 12:9  And he went out, and followed him; and wist not that it was true which was done by the angel; but thought he saw a vision.

      Act 12:24  But the word of God grew and multiplied.

The congregation has the right to discipline members who have gone astray.

      Rom 16:17  Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

Rom 16:18  For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

Does the term “brethren” include women also?  Of course it does.  If it did not, why did it not say, “I beseech you men.”

1Co 5:4  In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

1Co 5:5  To deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

The phrase “when ye are gathered together, “is this men only?  Is this the leaders only?  No, it is the congregation and they are to put this person out of their midst.  Mat 18:15-17 shows whole church involvement also.

Mat 18:15  Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

Mat 18:16  But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

Mat 18:17  And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen man and a publican.

I Thessalonians and Titus give us a little more on church involvement concerning the problem makers.

1Th 5:14  Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.

Tit 3:10  A man that is a heretic after the first and second admonition reject;

Titus was admonished by Paul in this letter.  This was personal instruction to him, but remember this, personal instruction was put in the Bible for us to live by.  It ties right in with Matthew 18:15-17.  There may be a time a member could be put out by a minister without church input, but today Sept 7, 2001 I certainly doubt it even if the offense is directed toward the minister himself, does not Mat 18 apply to every church member?  I know first hand that some ministers today will not accept that fact.  They toss members out of the fellowship on their own whims.

Take a look at Hebrews 13:7, 17, and 24.

      Heb 13:7  Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.

Heb 13:17  Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Heb 13:24  Salute all them that have the rule over you, and all the saints. They of Italy salute you.

Do hierarchist groups have a field day with this?  They play it to the fullest with what I would call cruelty.

Verse 7, “Which or that have rule over you” is Strong’s #2233.  The primary meaning is “to lead, i.e. command (with official authority)…”  Zodhiates’ Lexical Aids to the New Testament says of this phrase, “to bring, lead…”  It primarily signifies “to lead on or forward, to be the chief or principal participant…”  This is where a lot of over zealous dictatorial type personalities find excuse to exert power over others.  Certainly God will exalt certain people as teachers as prophets as healers etc. in the end time, just as He did in the early church. That was just a prototype for us to act out in the end time.  The word obey in verse 17 is twisted to the limit by the hierarchist. It is Strong’s #3982, primary meaning is “to convince (by argument true or false)…”  Zodhiates says of this word, “to entice or persuade…”  Notice in Hebrews 13:18 that the word trust is this same Greek word, Strong’s #3982.

Heb 13:18  Pray for us: for we trust we have a good conscience, in all things willing to live honestly.

When was the last time one of the hierarchists explained this subject to you?  If a member does not “obey” (the definition that we think of that word today) and they did it publicly, then they were kicked out of the church.  What gross cruelty to the sons and daughters of God.  I know personally (been there, done that as they say).  Know for sure this will not be true in the end time church.

The word “submit” is Strong’s #5226 meaning “to yield, be weak, to surrender…”  Does this mean to yield, to surrender to someone who is teaching a lie?  Absolutely not.  What does Christ say in other parts of the Bible?

Phi 2:5  Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Phi 2:12  Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

If it is a lie, it is not the mind of Christ.  You also have to have room to work out your own salvation.  What does 1 Corinthians 11:1 say?

1Co 11:1  Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

The word, “submit, “does not instruct us to yield to anything contrary to God’s true word.  That is a good example of why God has designed Sabbath service to have a lot of open discussion.  Our Creator installed checks and balances because he knows how Satan would mislead us.  1 Peter 2:25 tells us who is the true leader of the church and we as members have to keep this clearly in mind.

1Pe 2:25  For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

“Bishop” is Strong’s #1985 meaning, “a superintendent…”  We have to rightly divide the word of truth and fit ourselves into the path of God’s Word.  The bottom line in salvation is a PERSONAL matter between each human and God. God provides teachers, methods, etc. to lead us on that way.  NO NEVER ANY DICTATORS.

God gives the church the gifts of the spirit, different things to different people.  If any would aspire to be a leader in God’s end time church but cannot fit into Mat.20:25-28, he just cannot have the position since the congregation has a vote on it.

Mat 20:25  But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.

Mat 20:26  But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;

Mat 20:27  And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:

Mat 20:28  Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

“Minister” is Strong’s #1249 meaning, “to run errands; an attendant, i.e., (gen) a waiter (at table or in other menial duties)…”   “Servant” is Strong’s #1401 meaning, “a slave…”  Some people playing church can make a good case for qualifying at this, but we do not want to forget about all the other criteria they have to meet as well.  What people do away from the church setting is the most important.  I have seen several men over the years that I thought were that type of servant.  Remember, TRUE CHARACTER REVEALS ITSELF by what one does when nobody is LOOKING.  Be that as it is or was, it is the future church operation that we have to deal with.

What about end time prophets?  For sure, one prophet will touch all our lives, that is the end time Elijah.  I have covered this in many papers and will not dwell on it here.  Suffice it to say that he will have international ramifications. The New Testament seems to tell us that there will also be local prophets.

      Act 11:27  And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch.

Act 11:28  And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar.

Act 11:29  Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judea:

The known world was not nearly as big then.

      Act 19:6  And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

These were just average people speaking in various languages and prophesying. “Tongues” is #1100 meaning, “a language (spec. one naturally unacquired)…”

Act 13:1  Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.

Act 13:2  As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.

      Act 13:3  And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.

These verses seem to show that these were local prophets or at least regional ones.  The word “prophet” is Strong’s #4396 meaning “a foreteller…”  Acts 21:9 is an example of women prophets, local or regional.

Act 21:9  And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.

1 Corinthians 11:4-5 would be happening in local congregations or homes.

1Co 11:4  Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoreth his head.

1Co 11:5  But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoreth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

Acts 2:17 is very clear about last days church prophets and prophetesses.

Act 2:17  And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Notice Phil. 4:15-16, where the church was involved in making the decision, not the leaders alone.

Phi 4:15  Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.

Phi 4:16  For even in Thessalonica ye sent once and again unto my necessity.

Mat 23:10  Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

I want to inject a point here that is a Bible principle that I feel strongly about.  One of the definitions of master according to Webster’s II New College Dictionary is “mister.  I feel strongly that church people should not use that term among themselves.  We are not each other’s master.  We have to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling, but this brings up another point of how should children address adults?  They should be taught to show whatever is proper respect for their elders in their particular society until they are of sufficient age to be accepted as an adult.

Today is September 17, 2001 six days after the terrorist attack in New York City on the World Trade Towers.  What we humans fail to see but will see in hindsight is that there is a fight between Christ and Satan with us humans caught in the middle.  What is the assignment for the end time church?

Act 1:8  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Mat 28:19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Mat 28:20  Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Mar 16:15  And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Mar 16:16  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Luk 24:47  And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Joh 20:21  Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.

Let us not forget 1 Corinthians 10:11.  Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

“Examples” is Strong’s #5179: “a die (as struck), i.e. (by impl.) a stamp or scar; by anal. a shape, i.e. statue, (fig.) style or resemblance; spec. a sampler (“type“), i.e. a model (for imitation) or instance (for warning).”

Zodhiates’ Complete Word Study New Testament says: “type, as a constituent element of a parable or model of some reality which was yet to appear, a prototype of that which was yet to be developed and evolved.”

“Admonition” is Strong’s #3559: “calling attention to, i.e. (by impl.) mild rebuke or warning.”

“World” is Strong’s #165: “prop. an age; by extens. perpetuity (also past); by impl. the world; spec. (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future):—age, course, eternal, (for) ever (-more), [n-]ever, (beginning of the , while the) world (began, without end).”

The early church example is just a prototype of what we have to do today in the end time.  The nations they reached were a lot fewer than the number of nations we will be reaching.  What is the result of going into these nations with God’s Truth?

Rev 7:9  After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Rev 7:14  And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

The saved Saints come out of all nations and from great tribulation.  Great tribulation does not necessarily have to mean the end days Great Tribulation.  Each of us as individuals can suffer GREAT TRIBULATION in our own lives. Satan has the door slammed shut for millions of humans in the Muslim world.  As far as I can understand about Muslim world politics, all of those countries are off limits, inaccessible for us the end time church to reach with the message of salvation.

Satan is the god of this world and he has these people locked down.  Opening up the access to the end time church to reach these countries is what has to happen.  The US enjoys the most freedom of any country on earth.  We just have minor gun control.  We have complete free enterprise which includes no socialized medicine.  The US also has the world’s biggest economy with the most wealth.  This is from where the biggest portion of this end time expansion of God’s truth will happen.  In other free nations, the Christians there will do their part of the end time work as tithe money and freedom allow.  Through this terrorist attack in New York Satan is moving to shut down the USand plunge us into a recession and even worse into a depression.

I have never lived or even visited in a Muslim nation, but I have a friend who married an Iranian here in the USA about 30 years ago and is still married to him to this day.   The message I get from this woman is that the men in Irantreat women like dirt.  This may vary somewhat from nation to nation, but if it did, it would just be various degrees of dirt.  It seems to me from an outsider’s point of view that women are just slaves to be used by these religions to be walked on and tossed aside.

IS THIS GOD’S WAY?  NO.

This is the way of Satan, the god of this world.  These people have to be taught and given a chance at God’s Truth.  I should say a portion of these people.  Because there will be saved saints from all nations or else the Bible is untrue.

Can you start to see what I am saying that this is a fight between Christ and Satan for access to the minds of people?  These mighty Gods the Father and Christ are starting to show their hand.  There is no other way for this door to open to the end time church if they do not force it open and hold it open until we can do our job.

These terrorist extremists of the Muslim faith have got to be among the most sorry of Satan’s systems on this earth.  I am not pointing the finger at anyone other than these extremists who practice child sacrifice.  That is right, that is what I said, CHILD SACRIFICE.  Prove it you might be thinking.  Okay, the suicide bombers in the mid-east the suicide hijackers.  If I have the right information if you die in the jihad, the so-called “Holy War” you get a short cut to heaven.

These terrorist parents are committing child sacrifice by teaching their very own sons that self sacrifice is an honorable death that will earn them access to heaven.  Have you not seen on TV pictures of small boys wearing toy bomb belts?  How perverted can Satan make their thinking that you murder your way into heaven?  That is Satan’s way of thinking.

Is that not child sacrifice to train a male baby into that line of thought that to kill yourself and others is a great honor and a shortcut to heaven?  How sick!

Does it make any difference that this child is an adult before he carries out this dastardly deed?  He has been sacrificed from the time he was a child.  His destiny was sealed.  I can see nothing else to call it other than child sacrifice.

What an unthinkable thing to be happening in a civilized world!  What a harsh taskmaster the world has in the form of its god, Satan.  This is what Christ is taking on to force Satan to release these Arab Muslim nations so some can have a chance at salvation in the end time.

It is not only that portion of the world Christ is going to give some freedom, there are other places on earth where there is no access to teach the real Christ.  God will decide to what degree these doors have to open up.  Humans will not.

We are seeing a kind of repentance here in the US.  Do not jump to any hasty conclusions about that statement.  It is an absolute fact that the average Joe Citizen in the US cannot repent like God expects from the average Joe Real Christian in HIS church.  If you are not real familiar with the book of Judges, you would do well to study it closely.  Israel seems to fall into an endless cycle that went on for maybe 350 years or longer.  Israel would go into sin and idolatry, over and over again.  God would send an oppressor and they would repent.  The question is how did they repent?  Is it any different from today?  Look at a couple of examples.

Jdg 6:6  And Israel was greatly impoverished because of the Midianites; and the children of Israel cried unto the LORD.

Jdg 6:7  And it came to pass, when the children of Israel cried unto the LORD because of the Midianites,

“Cried” is Strong’s #2199 meaning “to shriek (from anguish or danger)…”

Jdg 10:10  And the children of Israel cried unto the LORD, saying, We have sinned against thee, both because we have forsaken our God, and also served Baalim.

In this verse “cried” is the same #2199.

So, what is the minimum bottom line repentance that God will accept from people who do not have the Holy Spirit?  God requires an acknowledgement of His being God and that He has the power over humans to help the condemned.

Observe also 2 Kings 1.

2Ki 1:1  Then Moab rebelled against Israel after the death of Ahab.

2Ki 1:2  And Ahaziah fell down through a lattice in his upper chamber that was in Samaria, and was sick: and he sent messengers, and said unto them, Go, inquire of Baal-zebub the god of Ekron whether I shall recover of this disease.

2Ki 1:3  But the angel of the LORD said to Elijah the Tishbite, Arise, go up to meet the messengers of the king of Samaria, and say unto them, Is it not because there is not a God in Israel, that ye go to inquire of Baal-zebub the god of Ekron?

2Ki 1:4  Now therefore thus saith the LORD, Thou shalt not come down from that bed on which thou art gone up, but shalt surely die. And Elijah departed.

2Ki 1:5  And when the messengers turned back unto him, he said unto them, Why are ye now turned back?

2Ki 1:6  And they said unto him, There came a man up to meet us, and said unto us, Go, turn again unto the king that sent you, and say unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Is it not because there is not a God in Israel, that thou sendest to inquire of Baal-zebub the god of Ekron? therefore thou shalt not come down from that bed on which thou art gone up, but shalt surely die.

2Ki 1:17  So he died according to the word of the LORD which Elijah had spoken. And Jehoram reigned in his stead in the second year of Jehoram the son of Jehoshaphat King of Judah: because he had no son.

Is not the implication here that if Ahaziah would have only inquired of the read God and not an idol of Satan, he would have lived rather than died.  Is not this a bare minimum repentance that God would have accepted? Without the Holy Spirit, no one can truly repent the way a true Christian can and must.  Let us not be too hard in our self-righteousness.  What we see going on in the US today Sept 18, 2001 is a type of repentance.  I think God will accept this type of repentance as he did in what we call Bible times.  God seems to use a calamity of some sort to lead people to repent.  We certainly had a calamity this past week in our country exactly one week from the morning the Feast of Trumpets.  There certainly has to be some changes on the world scene so the end time church can do the work and function according to God’s Word.

Let us look at a few more verses showing us how the church will be operating and doing the work.

Act 13:10  And said, O full of all subtlety and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

Act 13:11  And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand.

Act 13:12  Then the deputy, when he saw what was done, believed, being astonished at the doctrine of the Lord.

Notice how God performed a miracle through Paul to punish a person with blindness for a season as well as to call a person.  This is just a prototype of what the end time Paul or Pauls will be doing.

Act 14:8  And there sat a certain man at Lystra, impotent in his feet, being a cripple from his mother’s womb, who never had walked:

Act 14:9  The same heard Paul speak: who steadfastly beholding him, and perceiving that he had faith to be healed,

Act 14:10  Said with a loud voice, Stand upright on thy feet. And he leaped and walked.

We are all impotent in our spiritual feet and cannot walk properly with Christ since we are asleep and in slavery to Satan.

Mat 25:5  While the bridegroom tarried, they ALL slumbered and slept.

Acts 20 gives us another example of physical resurrection from the dead.

Act 20:9  And there sat in a window a certain young man named Eutychus, being fallen into a deep sleep: and as Paul was long preaching, he sunk down with sleep, and fell down from the third loft, and was taken up dead.

Act 20:10  And Paul went down, and fell on him, and embracing him said, Trouble not yourselves; for his life is in him.

There are many SPIRITUALLY DEAD Christians in our midst who will have to be resurrected spiritually.  Teaching the real truth to the people in the world to whom Christ sends us will be a major portion of the end time work and will certainly have great influence on how the church operates.  Getting this done is how the pound gains ten and the talent gains five.

Act 16:9  And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; there stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us.

This is another prototype of how Christ can and will communicate to the people He has chosen to do certain jobs.

We will be exercising demon control also.

Act 16:18  And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.

Jam 4:7  Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

The word “resist” in James 4:7 is Strong’s #436 meaning “to stand against or oppose:- resist, withstand.”

There is a lot more on demon control that I will not go over here as I have already done so in other papers.  Here are a couple of the major verses.

Luke 9:1  Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.

Luke 10:17  And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.

Luke 10:18  And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Luke 10:19  Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Luke 10:20  Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

The first word “power” in verse 19 is Strong’s #1849 meaning “privilege, i.e. (subj.) force, capacity, competence, freedom, superhuman, potentate…”  The second word “power” is #1411 meaning “miraculous power (usually by impl. a miracle itself)…”

Christ can and will use the people He chooses if they are willing and if they need correcting or instructing he will certainly see to it.

Whom did God place over the flock?

Act 20:17  And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus, and called the elders of the church.

Act 20:28  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Act 20:29  For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

Act 20:30  Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

Elders” is Strong’s #4245 meaning “(elderly) older, senior…”  “Overseers” is #1985, “superintendent, i.e. Christian officer in general charge of a (or the) church (lit. or fig.):- bishop, overseer.”  These verses do not say one or two or three or a committee is over the church.  It simply says “elders” which has to include all senior members.  All senior members would have input into church operations, as well as all members but the senior members would do the overseeing.  The very word is pretty well descriptive of the job.

Just one final example of how Christ himself acted at Sabbath services.

Luke 4:16  And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

Luke 4:17  And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

Luke 4:18  The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

Luke 4:19  To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

Luke 4:20  And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.

Luke 4:21  And he began to say unto them, This day is this Scripture fulfilled in your ears.

Luke 4:22  And all bare him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, Is not this Joseph’s son?

Luke 4:28  And all they in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath,

Luke 4:29  And rose up, and thrust him out of the city, and led him unto the brow of the hill whereon their city was built, that they might cast him down headlong.

Luke 4:30  But he passing through the midst of them went his way,

Christ did not take over the service.  He simply stood, read the verses to make his point and sat down.  At that point the Sabbath assembly was open to discussion, as shown in verse 22.  They started talking and Christ countered. Verses 28-30 describe the end result of this assembly.  The point is that the congregation had a chance for input.  This will happen many times to Christ in us in the end time.

After researching and writing this paper, it is so obvious how a Sabbath assembly should be conducted.  God’s way laid out in the Bible is totally opposite to what many of us have experienced in many churches today.  I am sure there is still much to learn and as start to actually put this information into action more knowledge will come.

If we cannot believe 1 Cor. 10:11 (review on page 1) and its instruction to us about these things that are written that are just prototypes of things to be acted out in the end time,  if that is not to be believed, then we cannot believe in salvation either.

Published October 2001

© Edgar Y. Bennett
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