HAS CHRIST ALWAYS EXISTED? NO!

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John.

This time frame of “must shortly come to pass” is now.  The Bible, including the book of Revelation, was written for the end-time Christians.

1 Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

“Ensamples” (examples)is Strong’s #5179: “a die (as struck), i.e. (by impl.) a stamp or scar; by anal. a shape, i.e. statue, (fig.) style or resemblance; spec. a sampler (“type“), i.e. a model (for imitation) or instance (for warning).”

Zodhiates’ Complete Word Study New Testament says: “type, as a constituent element of a parable or model of some reality which was yet to appear, a prototype of that which was yet to be developed and evolved.”

A bit of new information that we may have never understood before is not something to be taken lightly, disbelieved, tossed aside, reasoned away, etc., simply because it doesn’t fit our pre-conceived ideas.  God gives us a stern warning in Hosea 4:6 against rejecting knowledge.

Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

God does not say that truth has to come only from a source of our liking.  Notice in Revelation 1:6, we are destined to become kings and priests, but this can be stripped away.

Revelation 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen..

The Roman soldiers who killed Christ will see Him when He returns.  This means that they will be resurrected physical and then executed.  They have missed their chance at salvation and this is a lesson to us.  You do not have to have the Holy Spirit to lose salvation.  Many people will lose salvation without ever having the Holy Spirit.

Revelation 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Verse 11 describes a prototype for the end-time Christians.  This message was written originally to the New Testament churches, but remember who the Bible is written for.  It is written primarily for us—the end time Christians—and secondarily to all mankind as they have come into contact with it down through the years.

1 Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

Remember these words Alpha and Omega in Revelation 1:11, the first and the last. They will have great significance later in this paper.

Verses 12-16 give us a description.

Revelation 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. 16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

In verse 17, the first and the last show up again.  Verse 19 tells us that John is shown the present and future.

Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

Revelation 1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;

In verse 20, Christ explains who the stars and the candlesticks are.

Revelation 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

In the first verse of each message to the seven churches, Christ reiterates some of His character, some of His make-up, personality, and power.  Notice the letter to the Ephesus church.

Revelation 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;

This is a repeat of Revelation 1:20.

Revelation 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

The letter to the Smyrna church is a repeat of Revelation 1:17-18.

Revelation 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

The letter to the Pergamos church is taken from Revelation 1:16.

Revelation 2:12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;

Revelation 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

Christ is making a statement here.  He gives us a little more information about himself in Revelation 2:18, a description taken from Revelation 1:14-15.

Revelation 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;

Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

Revelation 3:1 has some of the same wording as Revelation 1:4, 16.

Revelation 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Revelation 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Revelation 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

In the message to the Philadelphian church there is no direct reference to a previous verse, but Christ gives us more information on His character.

Revelation 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;

If we believe Christ is true, do we not have to believe His word is true?

In the opening verse of each letter to each church, Christ gives us information about His appearance, His responsibility and His character.

Do we believe He walks in the midst of the 7 churches?

Revelation 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;

Do we believe He was dead and then resurrected?

Revelation 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

We have no problem believing that the sword He carries is sharp on both edges (the sword of the word of God).

Revelation 2:12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;

Do we have a problem with Revelation 2:18?

Revelation 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;

No one would argue with Christ’s claim in Revelation 3:1 that He has the 7 spirits of God, the 7 stars.

Revelation 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Certainly, no Christian would be foolish enough to argue with Revelation 3:7.

Revelation 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;

Do we doubt the statement in Revelation 3:10?

Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

We grab this promise and run with it.  Why?  This promise agrees with our concept of God and Christ.  But we tend to resist a concept that doesn’t agree with our preconceived ideas, even when our ideas are incorrect.  We have to realize that we are judged by what is written in the books, whether we like it or not.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

None of us would dare accuse Christ of not being a faithful and true witness.  Then aren’t we just as bound to believe the last part of Revelation 3:14?

Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

Notice what Christ says in Revelation 3:14.  Here, Christ is describing himself as the “faithful and true witness.”   Here is a personal message from Christ to you.  Will we accept the mind of Christ (Philippians 2:5)?  Will we live by every word of God (Matthew 4:4)?  If you or I refuse to live by every word, we won’t be in God’s Kingdom.

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

“…the beginning of the creation of God.”  Is this a misprint?  What does this say?

“Beginning” is Strong’s #746: “a commencement or (concr.) chief (in various applications of order, time, place, or rank)…”  Zodhiates’ Complete Word Study New Testament says that this word means “beginning…”

“Creation” is Strong’s #2937: “original formation (prop. the act; by impl. the thing, lit. or fig.):—building, creation, creature, ordinance.”  Zodhiates’ Complete Word Study New Testament says of this word: “a founding…”

Hold on a second.  Is this some kind of mistake by Christ?  Is this some kind of joke or lie?  Jesus Christ is claiming that He is the beginning (commencement) of God’s creation.  Is Jesus Christ not saying in this verse that He was created?  Christ indeed created all the physical things we know about, but it is a big stretch to apply that to Revelation 3:14.

Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

Will we believe the words that come straight from Christ’s mouth?  I’ve been taught that He always existed.  If He was created, how could He have always existed?  Haven’t most of us been taught that Christ has always existed? During the past 5 or 6 years, I have begun to question this belief because of the wording of John 1:1-2, which we will look at shortly.

Will you accept the mind of Christ (Philippians 2:5)?  I say again that this mighty Jesus Christ, whom we thought has lived for eternity, claims that He was the beginning or the commencement of God’s creation.

If this statement is a lie, then we have no salvation because the whole Bible is riddled with lies.  Hebrews 6:18 tells us that it is impossible for God to lie.

Hebrews 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

Will you be a foolish virgin and reject this statement because it conflicts with what you believe?

This is not something that we have to accept based only on part of one verse.  There is much more to it.  Let’s look at John 1:1.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Here again, “beginning” is Strong’s #746: “a commencement...”

Just as a side point before we proceed with this, John 1:1 is the farthest knowledge we have of the Father’s activities into past infinity.  I know of no other verse that gives us an indication of His activities before Christ was created.

“Word” is Strong’s #3056.  The primary meaning is, “something said (including the thought)…”  Zodhiates says, “The primary meaning is to speak…”

“With” is Strong’s #4314: “a strengthened form of #4253; a prep. of direction; forward to, i.e. toward...”  Strong’s #4253 means “fore, i.e. in front of, prior, (fig. superior) to:—above, ago, before, or ever…”

According to Berry’s Greek to English Interlinear, the word “the” in John 1:1 has been inserted by the translators, but that changes nothing.  Reread it without the inserted “the.”

“In beginning (commencement) was the Word (something said, including the thought) and the Word (something said, including the thought) was with God.”  Refer back to the above definition of the preposition “with.”  It is “a preposition of direction, fore, in front of, prior.”

“God” in this verse is the Father.  “…and the Word (which is something said, including the thought) was God (Jesus Christ).”

John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Let’s read John 1:1 one more time, excluding the inserted “the,” replacing “beginning” with “commencement” and inserting the meaning of “word:”

“In commencement was something said, including the thought, and something said, including the thought was with God (the Father), and something said, including the thought was God (Jesus Christ).”

This backs up the claim made by Jesus Christ, in Revelation 3:14, that He is the commencement of God’s creation.

Continuing in John 1:2, the same (Jesus Christ) was in the beginning (commencement) with God.

John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

As mentioned earlier, I know of no other passage in the Bible that would take us past this point in history into past infinity.  By now, some of you may be thinking, “Hold on Edgar!  Wait just a minute!  What does about Hebrews 7:3?”

Let us start with verse 1.

Hebrews 7:1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; 3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

So here we ASSUME that Christ has lived forever, but is this what the Bible says or is this something that strictly applies to man and the physical creation?  Christ dwells outside the time dimension.   Christ created time and set it in motion.

Genesis 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Was there a time dimension before Christ created it at the start of man’s creation and physical surroundings?  In Genesis 1, the creation of time includes the 7 days of the week.  Notice also in Genesis 1:14-18 that Christ set in motion the concept of months and years.

Genesis 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

In the original creation week, Christ created and set in motion the dimension of time.  Is He subject to this dimension?  Would He have a beginning of days?  If days did not exist at His creation, how could He have a beginning of days?

Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Will the time dimension always exist?

Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof…

25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

These two verses tell us the time dimension will cease to exist.  If there is no sun or moon, and no night, there can be no time dimension, as we know it.  Isn’t it clear, if we are to believe God’s word, that time was created for man? And since we are physical, the time dimension leads to aging, genealogies, etc.

Christ and the Father are outside the time dimension, so they do not age.  If the Father has always existed, could we take our physical numbering system and have enough numbers to reach into infinity to cover His age?  BeingBeing Inside and subject to the time dimension, our human minds have difficulty with the concept of infinity to the past or the future.

Christ gives us more information on His creation.  What about the words “alpha” and “omega,” the first and the last?

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelation 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Revelation 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

“Alpha” is Strong’s #1: “the first letter of the Greek alphabet.”   “Omega” is Strong’s #5598: “the last word of the Greek alphabet, i.e. (fig.) the finality.”

We have a problem here.  In Revelation 1:8, 1:11, 21:6 and 22:13, Christ claims to be the first and the last.  Just what is He the first and the last of, if He is not ahead of the Father?

Christ boldly claims in these four verses to be the first.  Now, hold it!  Where does Christ get off claiming to be the first?  Is He ahead of the Father?  What scriptures tell us that He is the first in front of the Father?  What Christ is saying is that He is the first and last God of his caliber/rank that will be created.  Christ has the ability of self-existence and also to create water of life.  All angels and also sons and daughters of God will have to consume water of life to continue to exist.

Let us look at Revelation 22:13 in more detail.

Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Remember, “Alpha” is Strong’s #1 meaning, “the first letter of the Greek alphabet.”

“Omega” is Strong’s #5598: “the last word of the Greek alphabet, i.e. (fig.) the finality.”

“Beginning” is Strong’s #746: “a commencement or (concr.) chief (in various applications of order, time, place, or rank)…”

“End” is Strong’s #5056: “(to set out for a definite point or goal); prop. the point aimed at as a limit...” Zodhiates’ says “end” means: “end, goal, the limit either at which a person or thing ceases to be what he or it was up to that point…”

“First” is Strong’s #4413: “foremost (in time, place, order or importance)…”

“Last” is Strong’s #2078: “…(in the sense of contiguity); farthest, final (of place or time)…”

So what is Christ telling us in Revelation 22:13? Are we willing to listen to what He is actually saying?  He claims He is the beginning (commencement).  The commencement of what?  If we are to believe God’s word, He tells us in Revelation 3:14.

Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

“Beginning” in this verse is again Strong’s #746: “commencement…”  “Creation” is Strong’s #2937 meaning “original formation…”  To believe anything other that what Christ says here is to call Him a liar.  He says plainly that He is the start of God’s creation.

In Revelation 22:13, Christ also claims to be “the end.”  Review definition above.

Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Christ was created first, and no created being can ever reach the longevity of the first and last that Christ claims He is. This is mentioned three times in the Old Testament:

Isaiah 41:4 Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he.

Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Isaiah 48:12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.

In all three verses, “first” is Strong’s #7223: “first in place, time, or rank…”  “Last” is Strong’s #314: “generally late or last…”

So where does this leave us, the end-time Christians to whom God claims the Bible is written?

1 Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

Jeremiah 23:20 The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly.

We will understand the thoughts of God’s heart clearly in the latter days. This includes His anger toward sinning humans, but must also apply to the other thoughts pertaining to salvation.

“Consider” is Strong’s #995 meaning, “to separate mentally (or distinguish), i.e. (gen.) understand…”  “Perfectly” is Strong’s #998 primarily meaning, “understanding…”  So, in the latter days we will be understanding clearly the thoughts of God’s heart.  This will be revealed to us through Elijah or one of his deputies as he restores all things.

Matthew 17:11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.

In light of the scriptures, can we fail to believe that Christ is a created being?  I certainly cannot.  Do we have the option of picking and choosing what we want to believe?  No!

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Notice the word “unbelieving” in Revelation 21:8.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

“Unbelieving” is Strong’s #571 meaning, “(act.) disbelieving, i.e. without faith…”  The people who refuse to believe what Christ says will have their part in the lake of fire.

Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

In Matthew 25:30, Christ describes the future of the foolish virgins—the unprofitable servants who will not submit to God’s written word.

Matthew 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

This is how Christ rules over us—through His written word.  Christ does not rule through some man pretending to represent God in a self-appointed position.  God gives us clear instruction in the Bible on how to select elders, teachers, etc. Congregational input is required, contrary to the method used by the Worldwide Church of God.

God very clearly shows us our future if we will not submit to His written word and He puts the responsibility on us, individually, to prove all things.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

Published July, 1999

Article Update, June 2005

I want to add a footnote to this paper in June 2005.

Believing or not believing that Christ is a created being is NOT a salvation obtaining or losing proposition as many, many other scriptures are.  I fully realize that many people will not have enough scriptures to be fully convinced, but do not worry about it.  We probably will not know 100% until after the resurrection.  Personally, I have enough understanding on the subject to be highly confident that Christ is a created being, but it certainly is not worth arguing about.  This paper sure made for an interesting Bible study for me.

Today is July 11, 2006 as I start to review this paper as well as all the papers on my website, as time goes on new understanding comes to mind.

Statements such as found in the following verses have to be dealt with.  Personal opinion means nothing.  The Bible says what it says, and we must accept and deal with that fact.

Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Rev 1:17  And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

Rev 2:8  And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

Rev 3:14  And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

Rev 21:6  And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Isaiah 41:4  Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he.

Isaiah 44:6  Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Isaiah 48:12  Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.

Let us begin by looking at Rev. 3:14, review on previous page, “the beginning of the creation of God.”  Berry’s Greek to English Interlinear new Testament translates this, “the beginning of God’s creation.”  Green’s Interlinear Bible Hebrew, Greek, English translates the word “beginning” as “head.”  The Living Bible Paraphrased translates it “primeval.”

Eight of the twelve other translations that I checked translate it, “the beginning of God’s creation.”  This is something that cannot be taken lightly when eleven of fifteen translate it the same.  It says in the above verses, “I am alpha and omega,” or “the beginning and the end,” or “the first and the last” fourteen times.  If God makes a statement fourteen times, isn’t He trying to get a point across?

Christ is God in the sense and way that we can never be God.  God the Father is the ultimate.  Christ said the Father was greater than himself.

Joh 14:28  Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Christ is second in greatness in everything.  We are and will be brothers and sisters of Christ when we are resurrected.  Christ is in a position we can never be in even as his brother or sister.  This makes him the first and last of the Father’s Creation in that position, and also the beginning of God’s creation in that position, this became necessary because of dealing with humans’ and angels’ sins.

Study Rev. 22:1-2 carefully.

Rev 22:1  And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

Rev 22:2  In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

The Lamb, Christ, produces water of life.  Every spirit being, angels, spirit animals and humans made spirit have to consume water of life to live or exist.  I have covered this in two other papers, The Physical Creation, and He Went and Preached to the Spirits in Prison.

Christ was created to a state of self-existence.  That is something that humans made spirit, angels, or demons do not have and can never have.  We have to partake of this water of life in some form or die.  This River of Life causes trees to grow.  They have fruit.  The leaves have healing properties.  We will eat bread, meat, and drink wine in the kingdom.

Mat 22:2  The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son.  3  And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.  4  Again, he sent forth other servants, saying,Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

Mat 26:29  But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.

Luke 22:18  For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.

Aside from the enjoyment of eating good meals and drinking good beverages, this is an insurance valve for the Father and Christ.  If there is rebellion, billions of years from now, God can just turn off the valve to the living water.  The Father and Christ are the creators.  Angels and children of God are the consumers as well as all the spirit animals, Rev. 22:1.  Christ rides a white horse along with his armies.

Rev 19:11  And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

Rev 19:14  And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

No water of life equals no life.  It would not be called “water of Life,” if it did not impart life.  Christ can produce this water of life.  We can only consume it.  He is the First and Last, the alpha and omega, the beginning of God’s creation who is able to produce water of life.

Was Christ created to his position by the Father in his infinite wisdom to have a potential sacrifice for sin in the future?  Satan created sin and many once righteous angels followed him.

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and thefather of it.

These sinning angels need forgiveness just like sinning humans.

Rev 13:8  And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

“Foundation” is Strong’s #2602, “a deposition, i.e., founding; fig. conception:- conceive, foundation.”

Should we as humans think it strange that the Father in his ultimate infinite wisdom could create a God, a lesser God than himself? We accept the fact that we will be sons and daughters of God the Father and that Christ is our Big Brother.  Could we in reality call Christ our Big Brother if he did not have the same lineage that we do, that of being created?

Does the fourteen times Christ mentions the first and last, the beginning, the alpha and omega, indicate that the Father was alone at His “level of being God” and that there had to be a God on His level to forgive sins?  If God the Father was alone in the cosmos when He started the planning of the angelic creation, it was imperative that a God being like Christ come from somewhere.  By “alone,” I mean there was no other self-existing God who could create Water of Life.  I am sure He had created beings around Him.  I think it is likely that the 24 elders existed before Christ.  That is why they are called “Elders.”  I am sure that the Father’s infinite wisdom allowed for the creation of sin in the angelic world by some of the created perfect angels falling from that position.

Hebrews 10:10-14 make it plain that Jesus made a one time sacrifice for sins forever, sins in the angelic world as well as the physical or human world.

Heb 10:10  By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.   11  And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

12  But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God;  From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.  14  For by one offering he hath perfected forever them that are sanctified.

This is crunch time in this paper as mentioned above.  Revelation 3:14 has to be dealt with.

Rev 3:14  And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

I quoted Hebrews 7:1-3 on page 7.

Hebrews 7:1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; 3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Let us take a closer look at this passage.  The phrase “made like” is Strong’s #871, meaning, “to assimilate closely; -make like.”  Berry’s Greek to English Interlinear New Testament translates this, “but assimilated to the son of God.” Green’s Interlinear Bible Hebrew Greek English translates it “having been made like.”  A few other translations translate it as made, some as assemble, and some just eliminate altogether the phrase “but made.”

If the Father was alone or had no other God being on his level, a creator and self sustaining God who did not need water of life to exist but could actually create it, then the Father had to bring a God like that into existence.  There had to be a God on Christ’s level to die for angelic and human sin.  The Father could not die and resurrect himself.  Do the fourteen statements by Christ indicate that this was indeed the situation?  You cannot just casually toss aside fourteen statements like that.  You decide.

© Edgar Y. Bennett
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